Shallow water Sight Fishing fishing for Bull Redfish, Shallow Water Sight Fishing for Tarpon, Shallow Water Sight Fishing for Snook
Shallow water Sight Fishing fishing for Bull Redfish, Shallow Water Sight Fishing for Tarpon, Shallow Water Sight Fishing for Snook
Shallow Water Fishing
Light tackle fishing
Sight Fishing
Pros and Cons of Cold Fronts in relation to inshore fishing
Tactical fishing for Snook and Redfish
Fish Conservation Efforts
Captain’s Log TV Show on Waypoint TV
Go Castaway Fishing Charters with Captain Jonathan Moss
Captains Log TV
https://www.thecaptainslogtv.com
Eye Strike Texas Eye
Shallow water fishing
Jud: We want to talk about your guide business and your tv show and your life in fishing. Tell us how you’ve come to where you are in your fishing career
Jonathan: Thanks for having me. It is an honor. I am full time guide in Orlando, Florida and I’ve been guiding both fresh and salt water for seven years now. I start my eighth year in June. Prior to that I was a full time teacher which is why I started guiding full time in June. I started at the end of the school year. Kicked off the summer break by turning in my two weeks notice. Which was awesome! I am not coming back in August! Three years ago we started the TV show. Three years ago yesterday we released the promo and we released our first episode in MAy 2020. As the world was losing its mind, we were hustling and grinding and filming a tv show and just figuring it out as we went. Bouncing around from ramp closures and there was a lot. We fought through it and launched that first season, May of 2020. Here we are wrapping up season 4. It’s been a journey my friend and everyday is a new day to learn something about fishing, about the industry, about filming, and about being a better guide. That’s what my passion is.
Jud: That’s awesome! Where did your fishing passion start? Did you grow up in Florida? When did you fall in love with the whole world of fishing?
Jonathan: Born and raised here in Orlando. My dad started taking me fishing for bluegill when I was three years old and pun intended, I have been hooked ever since. There are alot of people with similar stories, but for us here in Orlando, we are an hour to the coast and when I was seven years old my parents and my aun and uncle, two families joined together to buy a condo in Cocoa Beach so now this whole new world of fishing opened up. We alternated weekends, so one weekend we would be bass fishing in Orlando and the next we would be saltwater fishing in the Indian River lagoon or the Banana River lagoon, or just fishing from the beach there in Cocoa Beach. It opened a whole new world of fishing for me. I’m very blessed in the sense that I had the opportunity to grow up doing both fresh and saltwater. We didn’t do much off-shore stuff because we didn’t have the boat for it, but the inshore stuff we did a lot of. Our family friend had an off-shore boat so we got out a couple times a year with him and just did bottom fishing. I’ve been blessed to dabble in everything Florida has to offer since I was three years old.
Jud: Great area to grow up in. Were you a big Disney kid growing up?
Jonathan: I still am a big disney kid!
Jud: We are going in February! We love it man.
Jonathan: I taught not far from there, and I was dating my wife and she was a nurse so we never had a schedule that was similar but on her days off, she would come pick me up at the end of the day and we would go to Disney for a few hours. We love going out to the theme parks.
Dynamic Florida Fisheries
Jud: I am jealous how close you are and how close you are to so many cool dynamic fisheries. Fisheries that will make you a good angler. I’ve spent a little bit of time fishing Indian River Lagoon and Mosquito LAgoon, the fish are plentiful, but they are technical. I feel like that applied with your bass fishing is just a really cool and well-rounded angler. Guiding bass and saltwater, you’ve got to be well-rounded. Walk me through that. What does that look like to guide both? As a client, can I do fresh or salt?
Jonathan: So all of the above. So, when a client calls and want to book a fishing charter, I say, “Do you want to go fresh or salt?” If you are the family going to Disney and you might not have a rental vehicle, you could Uber to bass fishing about 20 minutes from Disney. Salt water is an hour and 20 minutes from Disney, so the convenience side plays a part. The other part of it is that people can bass fish all over the country, so a lot of my clients don’t want to go bass fishing because they do it a lot at home. Some call specifically because they want to catch a Florida strain largemouth bass so I get both. Having the ability to do both and the option to do both for my clients, has been tremendous. Or, hey, a cold front is moving in so it’s going to be blowing tomorrow out on the flats, it’s going to be cold and windy. Like you said, the fish are technical. You have to make the right presentation, and it might be tough to get out there with the wind blowing. Even if you can hide from the wind or weather, that doesn’t mean the fish are going to be there. So then, bass fishing opens up an option for us. We can get out and it doesn’t matter how windy it is, we can find a shoreline that is protected and there is going to be fish there. I like having both and I do both enough where if I spend the whole week bass fishing, I don’t feel like I’m unprepared for the saltwater side, or vice versa. I spend a lot of time doing both. For me, I like catching fish, so I’m just as excited catching a largemouth bass and I am a redfish. I like fighting fish, I like the tug, I like the whole experience.
Jud: You really can’t beat the hook set on a largemouth bass; that is one of the best feelings in the world when you get a bite from a bass that you can just lean into.
Jonathan: I am really simple; I go bass fishing with one lure. I have a box full of one lure, it’s a number 8 jerk bait. I tell you what, I’ve got 50 of them in that box and they are all black and silver and I don’t care about your experience level and I don’t care about how big or small the fish is, it’s going to hit it like a freight train, and half the time they hook themselves because they are so aggressive. They will blitz on bait, it’s like tunas off shore,or jack carvels in-shore. They go absolutely bananas. You throw in there, you will catch two at the same time. It’s like a group of teenage boys. You put a plate of pizza rolls, they devour those things in seconds. That’s what these fish do. They are so competitive with each other. When that’s happening, it’s so much fun and you’re sight fishing them so I tell my clients, if you’re off to the right and the fish are blowing up on the left, reel in fast and chuck it over there. You can’t beat that in fishing, it’s so much fun.
Jud: You really can’t! The visual aspect… So many people that have never tried it think they like the speckled trout fish in NC and VA and they’ll spend the whole year just targeting speckled-trout. There are tons of other stuff going on and they just want trout. But if you take them sight fishing for redfish, and they can see them before there is even bait in the water, it’s a whole new game.
Jonathan: In-shore, saltwater anglers can catch fish anywhere. If you can do that and do it successfully, you can go catch anything. You can go anywhere and throw a lure and catch anything. That game is very very difficult and yet so rewarding. Especially from a fly guide, handing them a fly that I have tied and watching them present to a fish and watching the fish react and respond to how you are presenting and working. Oh goodness, even if there’s not a fly, even if it’s plastic, seeing that fish respond oh my goodness, that is the hunting of fishing. That is very high on my list. I love poling, I love the teamwork, I say there are three jobs that have to happen. I have to put you in front of the fish, you have to cast at the fish, and the fish has to eat it. When those three things come together, oh my goodness, that’s why we get up early. That’s why we grind, that’s why we prepare so much. Fresh or salt, that’;s what I’m looking for every single time I go fishing.
Jud: It’s cool to figure out what lights people’s fire when it comes to fishing. Everyone likes something a little bit different. In the saltwater world, what does that look like? What kind of boat are you running? What are you fishing? What areas down there in Orlando?
Jonathan: I am in an 18 foot skiff. It floats in 6 inches of water. I use the same boat in fresh and salt. It’s very stable; as stable as you can get for a skiff. I’ll run three people on it. It can be tricky and a little tight, but the boat handles it and gets it down. The same deal going bass fishing. It’s a great boat. I have a second boat that allows me to take up to six people, which can be a little bit crazy slinging plugs around, but yeah I’m running a skiff, 60 horsepower mercury on the back. It’s light and serves everything I need to do.
Jud: If you go out today in the saltwater world, and you have a perfect day, what does that look like?
Jonathan: If I only have one or two people, I want to go sightfish. And that really depends on a few things. Water clarity is the biggest part; if we can’t see in the water which I’m okay with it, because we are only looking for tails or pushes, until we find a group and then we’ll kind of slow way down and make our presentation. If the water is super clear we are in stealth mode and very focused on how we are presenting to our fish so that we don’t spook them. If you can see the fish, they can see you. If I have kids though, I am going to change how I fish. When I have kids, it’s all about keeping them busy and I want to find that school of trout that are 12-17 inches, those are the fish I want to find. We are still going to throw something easy. YOu don’t have to sightfish them, but we want an area where they can work that lure back and just reel something to keep those kids busy. And then if I have to bring bait with me, I am not a big bait guy. I am not good at the bait wait and sitting, that’s my least favorite style of fishing, but sometimes if you want to catch a big fish, you’ve got to soak a big bait, but that’;s not my favorite way. I would rather go out and push and look and really it just depends on who is on my boat. I try to ask as many questions as I can to the client ahead of time, so that when they show up that morning I am not figuring it all out. So you can’t cast? Okay let’s do this. Wait, you’ve fished a ton in your life, okay perfect. There are things I want to know ahead of time so when we get there I am prepared and they are ready for their experience for the day.
Jud: What species of fish can you find there in the Indian River Lagoon and Mosquito Lagoon? What are you targeting on a regular basis?
Jonathan: Redfish, trout, black drum are here year around. April-ish to November-ish wev’e got some snook and tarpon as well. It just depends on the water temperature. But those are my five species that I am constantly looking for. The big three being redfish, trout and black drum because they are here year around. I like the warmer simply because you have five different species. We will get our occasional schools of jacksonville and if I have a bunch of kids in summertime we will go wreck the ladyfish, they are amazing and so much fun. They provide so much excitement for newbie anglers. They are a lot of fun, but mainly those 5, redfish, trout, black drum, snook and tarpon. There we go!
Pros and Cons of Cold Fronts (How Cold Fronts Affect Redfish, Speckled Trout, Snook & Tarpon
Jud: So are the snook and tarpon completing leaving your systems in the colder months and coming back or do they fall to deeper water?
Jonathan: I wish! We just had a big cold front come through. Christmas Eve it was 28 degrees that morning, the coldest Christmas we had had in 30 years. We lost a ton of snook. I was out on the water a few days ago and there was dead snook everywhere. They were all giant, like at least 30 inches or bigger. I saw a bunch of dead goliaths as well. Haven’t seen dead trout or redfish because they can handle the cold weather better. I got some reports on dead tarpon which I haven’t seen yet, but they said where they were and it’s one of the best places for me to go for tarpon, so I am not surprised. There is deeper water in that spot and I’m not shocked they were dead, it just got so cold. So really, I think if we can have gradual cold fronts, where the temperatures slowly go down, then they will run. They will move to the power plants and to the back country creeks or they’re going to run south. I was speaking to a scientist a few days ago who said it’s not uncommon for snook to run a hundred miles ina day. That is crazy. They have tagged them and tracked them going up and down the Indian River, so up my way, all the way down to Stewart. That is a long swim. And They will just keep on swimming until they find what they’re looking for. But if it drops too cold, too quickly., we;re going to lose those fish and that tends to happen. In 2009 and 2019 we had two big freezes and in 2009 it was bad. We lost a lot of fish. Everything died. Turtles, manatees, dolphins, fish, it was really bad. The whole state actually closed snook for years and you couldn’t keep them at all. In 2019, it happened again and I don’t think we caught snook for years. We finally started catching them again, so seeing all those big female snooks dead this past week it’s terrible. I hate it! But, on the flipside, our estuary needs cold water to kill the brown algae. We have a brown algae that does not like cold water. It thrives in hot water, so we need those cold fronts to kill those algae so the water cleans up and clears up so the sunlight can penetrate the bottom and we can have photosynthesis and that grass can grow.
Jud: How long of a period of time do you need to have a good kill of that brown algae?
Jonathan: It drops really fast out here, so if we can just have a couple of weeks of cooler water, in the 60s it makes a huge difference. It propels us through the summer. IF we don’t have enough cold water, as soon as it starts getting hot, if that algae isn’t completely dead, it will get hot and the water temp will go up and that a;lgae will pop right back up. This year, up until we had hurricane Ian and Hurricane Cole, we had some of the cleanest water I’ve seen through the summer in a long time. And we had a lot of grass grow. But because of the hurricane and all of the water being stirred up, the runoff being dumped in, it just got really dark really fast and a lot of that grass died, especially in Mosquito Lagoon. I saw some new shoots of grass the other day, and I am seeing more and more clean water. I got a report this morning from a buddy who is fishing the Northern end of Mosquito Lagoon and he said it was clear everywhere and he was seeing grass growing back. So it’s great. So it’s a double edged sword. You want the colder water to help fight the brown algae but if it’s too cold you lose your snook and your tarpon. T
Jud: That’s a bummer man, those fish kills.We had a little bit of a trout kill up here in NC, but very little. I was nervous because it did get cold so quickly, but even up into Virginia, we’ve seen a few dead fish but not many. It’s crazy how resilient trout can be. They are our most fragile fish for sure, but redfish, the resilience of them water temperature wise is incredible. I’ve been down in Louisiana and thrown a fly to redfish and it didn’t sink because it hit ice but the fish swam out from under the ice and ate the fly. I’ve also seen redfish belly crawling in 94 degree water and busting shrimp and eating flies. A redfish is a pretty incredible flats fish, for being able to handle that type of temperature change, but I wish they all could. But if they all could, they wouldn’t be as special, the tarpon and snook wouldn’t be special if you could catch them everywhere.
Tactics for Fishing Snook and Redfish
Jud: What are some of the tactics you like to do when you are going for snook and redfish down there? Can you pull the same flats and the same baits and catch all the same in-shore fish down there?
Jonathan: Yes, but where it changes is the size. The middle of summer you’re going to get pods of large tarpon, so then we change how we fish there. If you have a guide that’s throwing spins, you’re throwing big like BOA bait busters for an artificial side. Or you‘re throwing out a live mullet. The mullet can be the better way to do it or the more productive way, but like I said, I like going in 4-5 feet of water and just watch them cruise. They will get closer and closer and happier and happier and then you cast it out in front of them and watch them react. You make the right cast, they are going to react and that DOA bait buster has that big giant J hook, so you get a good hook, it’s going to go through. Another way is throwing top water plugs. Top water plugs with a J hook it’s not always big enough. You might stick them but they might shake off, but who cares, when that thing blows it up and goes bananas for a few seconds, I don’t care if you land it, that was amazing and exciting. Those are the few ways we go over those. But the smaller ones, from 1-20 pounds those are on the same flats and our redfish and snooks and trout and black drum. You can throw the same DOA. A paddle tail if you will. You can throw the same one at those fish and they’ll still crush it. Sometimes if the tarpon are honed in, that fly cna be the best way. Smaller presentation that you can throw further. If you want to have fun and not worry about landing so many fish, the little bitty bass lure you throw, those are epic. Those are amazing. It looks like a little pod of minnows swimming through the water. It’s fun you’ll get bit up a lot throwing a small presentation.
Jud: Your black drum there, will they eat artificials pretty willingly?
Jonathan: No, not really. They have poor eyesight, so something stinky if your best bet, but if you can put it in it’s nose and let it sit, he’ll eat it. It’s just about the presentation. But I’ve also had them chase down plastic, run it down like a redfish.
Jud: They are a funny fish.
Jonathan: It’s all about the presentation to be honest. If they don’t want your plastic and you have some scent you can throw on them, that’s a good way to do it. Next best way is to get a jighead and a fresh dead shrimp, but if it’s old they won’t eat it. The catfish will eat and old shrimp but the drum won’t. Then you can do some sight fishing that way.
Jud: Are they a visual fish? Do you see them a lot on the flats?
Jonathan: Yes! If the water is clean, you can see them really good. They are typically in groups. One of the things we’ve had to combat down here, are some commercials netters. IF they’ve had a net thrown at them or wrapped around them, and not caught, those schools will be really freaked out. Some days they are just chewing and happy and then a netter will come out of nowhere and scare them. If you can find them happy, they are a lot of fun. Sometimes it’s a school of 20-30 fish. The big ones are breeding on the flats this time of year. You can find schools of a couple hundred.
Jud: Y’all do get big bull black drum and big bull redfish don’t you?
Jonathan: Oh yeah, I have photos and videos of 50 pound black drum. 200 of them all sitting together, feeding, tailing. You want to fish, but you don’t. You just want to wash because it’s just so incredible. And you swing a lure in there and you will just crush it.
Jud: So for big black drum and big redfish, is there a better time of year or can you do it year around?
Jonathan: Year around, but when they are spawning I try not to mess with them. We might catch one or two, depending on how many people are on the boat. But I need those fish to be happy and healthy and reproduce. I had a dad and two little boys, they were three and five or four and six, they were young. Boys could throw pretty good, so we were just wrecking the fish. We’re using the push button and I hear an explosion and I look over and it is a wad of giant redfish swallowing bait up on the surface. And I just couldn’t talk. I was freaking out. I look at the dad and I say “do not throw that rod.” I grab a spinner and I jerk around and sure enough the dad got bit . IT was crazy. Those fish can pop up anytime. This was during the summer. A lot of time the black drum and the redfish, but more of a black drum thing, will be stacked up a long the bridges. We have several bridges on our lagoon system, and really what the guides have been doing, it sight fish them with our unit, so we’ll side scan the bridge until we find a school. Some days they are happy and chewing and some days they don’t want anything to do with it. Bit if you can find a school and drop your bait down, like a half a blue crab or a fresh dead shrimp. Something down there with a good scent and they will munch it. A lot of times they’ll just get bumped by the lines and take off, or they’ll eat and run right back into the school and you’ll lose them and another one will eat it. Sometimes it’s crazy. The biggest key is, turn those drum away from the bridge and you’re golden. The big drum are a lot different than the redfish. The big drum are king of lazy. They’ll take off but you can turn them. Then they kind of wear out and you bring them to the boat. A couple years ago a group of five or six of us, one of the guides kind of pushed out and I’m looking over at him like, the fish are right here? What is he doing? Then I saw him told people to cast and when that bait hit the water, it erupted. I was like, reel them in! We’re going over there. There must have been a thousand black drum all 40 to 60 pounds, not exaggerating. There was seven boats, 15 people fishing and everyone hooks up. Everyone is sighting fish and taking pictures and releasing them. And then they just floated away. It was unbelievable. Everyone was laughing. I’ll never forget that day. It was so easy to see those fish. He just turned around and boom! But that’s what can happen and that can happen year round out here. That is something special about her estuary is that these fish are residential. They live here and they don’t leave, they don’t go far. They reproduce here. They don’t run off shore to spawn. They do everything here which is why I am so committed to fighting for our lagoons. I am so passionate about fixing our water problems and being catch and release, not because I don’t want you to eat fish, but because our fish need an opportunity to rebound. I get the argument all the time, if you’re just throwing them back into dirty water, that doesn’t fix the problem. It doesn’t but at least I can be a good steward of my fish now and working on the first water problem so when we get our water clean, the fish that are there can thrive and be happy again. That’s my mindset and it’s hard to convince and teach people that. It takes a lot of work and a lot of convincing. There is still the old school mentality, you catch, you kill, you eat, but that isn’t always the best product. Those are my products on my shelf. If I keep depleting that source, I am eventually going to run out, so I want to continue to have those experiences with my clients and I want my kids to have those experiences out on the water. My kids need to catch fish. I want them to have their own stories with me and with their kids. That isn’t going to happen if we aren’t fighting for our fish.
Water Issues and Conservation Efforts in the Indian River Lagoon Systems
Jud: What are the issues the Mosquito Lagoon and Indian River Lagoon are facing?
Jonathan: So there are a few things going on. First off, manatees are great but they eat so much grass. Thousands and thousands of pounds of grass every single day. The problem is, we don’t have any more grass so now our manatees are dying.The local governments solution is to feed the manatees, but that doesn’t fix the problem. So now the issue is, why aren’t they migrating? They are being fed and they are all going to power plants. We have power plants along the river and they warm water discharge. So in wintertime, the hottest water is at the power plants. The manatees all pile in there and that’s where they feed them. Our manatees are an issue we are working on. We have to be strategic here. I am not against the manatees. I have days where the manatees change a whole trip for me. We aren’t catching a lot and then we see a manatee and everyone is excited and relaxed and then we go back out and catch fish. But at the same time, we’re doing a disservice if we are not actually addressing the issues and having them migrate naturally. We are putting a band-aid on a situation that needs a lot more than that.
Jud: It’s essentially training and encouraging them to be lazy. If they have warm water and food close by, they will never leave.
Jonathan: Right. There needs to be some tough love. They need their natural progression of migrating south to warm water. That is going to give them a food source down south; plus it allows our food source and grass to grow and thrive so when they return, there will be food for them. They aren’t dying from boats, they are dying from starving. And in the wintertime, water is pushed south and there is no tide where I am at in th eIndian River and the middle part of the Mosquito Lagoon. So in a cold front, the water is flushed out of our system and drops. So now, the manatees can even reach the leaves on the main growth so they are starving. That’s one of our problems. The second issue we’re having is the sewage issue. There are sewage systems in the city that are falling apart because they aren’t made for the number of people we have. They were put in so many years ago that they are falling apart and those need to be replaced. The septic tanks need to be taken out and replaced with city sewage. We’re talking about a lot of infrastructure and money. It would take a lot of time to replace all of these systems but in the meantime we are seeing the local governments saying that we have an overflow of sewage so let’s “accidentally” dump it into the river, and that happens more often than you think. It’s so sad. When you filet a fish and there’s corn in the fish’s belly. There is a big reason why we’ve stopped keeping fish. They are not swimming in water that people should swim in. That’s a big problem. The third thing is going to be really difficult to tackle. Everytime there is a launch of a rocket, I love it! It’s so cool, but the frequency of these launches are a detriment to our system. Chemicals are being placed in our waters because of these launches. If we can tackle the first two, then the third part won't be as bad, but still something to work on. They are talking about doing a hundred launches a year, which is almost two a week. There’s that side of it. There is a lot that’s going on in the state. Yesterday, the governor pledged 3.5 billion dollars for water restoration projects in the state of Florida, a hundred million of which will go to the Indian River Lagoon system for the next four years. This will help pay for the project and fix more problems. We are taking slow steps in the right direction. This year we had some of the clearest water we’ve seen up until the hurricanes. We are trying to get things right. I’ve been pushing with the Florida guide’s association. We’ve been going to lots of meetings and advocating for conservation and best practices and science based conservation changes like catch and release in the mosquito lagoon for redfish. The Lagoon Waterman alliance is putting together a plan to fix some fo our problems and how we can scientifically address some of these problems and get stakeholder conversation going. We want anglers involved because this is about fixing our problems so we can continue to use Florida’s natural resource in a responsible way. There is a lot going on down here. Don’t hear me wrong though. We are still going fishing and we are still having a great time. I am passionate about it because I want our kids to enjoy it.
Jud: As a guide, we don’t want to scare people away from the fisheries, but we have that platform of clients and anglers on our boats that need to hear what’s happening and the truth about our fisheries and the management of them. I think it’s so important.
Jonathan: I have that conversation everyday on my boat and a lot everyday with people who get mad because I’m catch and release. They don’t want to book me; I lose a lot of charters, but I say “hey, I totally get it. I love bringing home fish for a meal, but right now if I don’t take care of the products on my shelf, we are going to have them in the future. I am a big Dave Ramsey fan and he says “Live like no one else, so later on you can live like no one else.”
Jud: I was just saying that just the other day. IT really applies to different things. T
The Captain’s Log on WayPoint TV
Jud: Thank you so much for hopping on. Is there anything I missed in this conversation that you want to bring up?
Jonathan: Selfishly let me plug the show. It has been a fun ride, we just filmed episode 40 which is the finale for season four that will come out very soon. Then we will take a little time off because it’s cold. I am a Florida boy and I hate the cold. In the Spring we are going to start filming season 5 and we’re going to start releasing those pretty quick, early Summer. It has been a fun journey and I am so thankful to have people watching and tagging along as we are adding new entries to the captain log. The Captain's Log is available on waypoint TV and if you aren’t familiar, if you like to hunt and fish, it’s your one stop shop for fishing and hunting content. More than just my show, there are tons of great shows on Waypoint. Go and binge my episodes and go and binge all of Jay Withers and all these other shows that are out there.
Jud: There is! It is such a cool platform to consume fishing and hunting content like a fatty. Anything you could want!
Jonathan: this year we’re going to be pushing a lot towards our youtube channel, lots of how-tos and educational stuff. I am still a teacher at heart and I want anglers to get better. We have a laundry list of how-to videos we are working on so we can educate the angler to be the best they possibly can when they go fishing. We want you to have the best experience you can have out on the water.
Jud: What’s your youtube channel?
Jonathan: Yes we are Captain’s Log TV on everything. Youtube, instagram, facebook, everything.
Jud: How can people book a trip? Remember next time you go to Disney you can fish while you are there for bass or even some saltwater fishing. How can they get up with your guide business.
Jonathan: Go Castaway Fishing Charters. Go to castaway.com or hit me up on social media @GoCastaway we can get you squared away and figure out the right trip for you.
Jud: thank you so much, I’ll have all of that linked. Thank you for checking out the latest episode of Eastern Current. See y’all next week!